Jan 11, 2026 7:38 AM
Removed Black Kyurem ex x1, Removed Flutter Mane x1, Removed Manaphy x1, Removed Tapu Fini-GX x1, Removed Wellspring Mask Ogerpon ex x1, Removed Aqua Patch x1, Removed Colress's Tenacity x1, Removed Megaton Blower x1, Added Muscle Band x1, Removed Ordinary Rod x1, Removed Double Colorless Energy x2, Added Water Energy x3, Added Kyogre x2, Added Battle Compressor Team Flare Gear x2, Added Squawkabilly ex x1, Added Girafarig x1, Added Prime Catcher x1
Added:
- Kyogre (me1-34) x2
- Battle Compressor Team Flare Gear (xy4-92) x2
- Squawkabilly ex (sv2-264) x1
- Girafarig (sm8-94) x1
- Prime Catcher (sv5-157) x1
Removed:
- Black Kyurem ex (sv8-218) x1
- Flutter Mane (svp-97) x1
- Manaphy (swsh12pt5gg-GG06) x1
- Tapu Fini-GX (sm3-133) x1
- Wellspring Mask Ogerpon ex (sv6-213) x1
- Colress's Tenacity (sv6pt5-87) x1
- Megaton Blower (sv8-182) x1
- Ordinary Rod (swsh1-215) x1
- Double Colorless Energy (sm2-166) x2
Changed:
- Aqua Patch (sm2-161) : -1 (2 → 1)
- Muscle Band (xy1-121) : -1 +1 (1 → 2)
- Water Energy (hgss1-117) : -3 +3 (7 → 10)
Main Deck (60 cards)
$0.15
$11.50
$0.44
x2
$0.19
$187.21
x3
$92.23
x3
$110.33
$2.97
$11.78
x2
$20.30
$7.26
x2
$2.71
$18.32
$0.28
$1.20
x4
$11.00
x4
$31.87
x3
$18.88
$6.33
x2
$4.51
x3
$0.76
$4.34
$11.89
x2
$25.93
$55.55
x2
$112.63
$6.56
$18.23
x10
$25.54
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160
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Energy
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1 Energy
10 attacks
10
38.5% of attacks
2 Energy
8 attacks
8
30.8% of attacks
3 Energy
8 attacks
8
30.8% of attacks
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Deseus | Legacy of Wrath
you know the deck is good when there's a starmie
The comment under this is old. Don't read it xD
Maybe Dragonite EX could help? (the one from that x and y set, idk what it is)
Starmie23 Bench space is an issue especially in the matchups where decks run Sudowoodo. Karen tends to be a lot better in that regard, plus, we do not have any nets so it becomes an awkward mon to leave on the bench.
Out of curiosity, what is the reasoning behind running Tapu Lele GX over a card like Lumineon V? They have the same ability, and being a water type means that you can call it with Dive Ball. They also have the same HP and retreat cost. The only upside to Lele is that it has an attack that's easier to use than Lumineon, so perhaps there's that. By no means is this trying to undermine this deck in any way, just a genuine question as thanks to your previous input I'd like to improve on the general quality of my decks. :D
a pokemon in the format block non-psy pokémon abilities
CountyGibbon798 I know this is a very late comment but I just got back into this account after losing the password. Basically you run Tapu Lele over Lumineon because of Wobbuffet, which blocks all non-Psychic Pokemon abilities. Lumineon is only preferred if you're playing a deck with Seal Stone. You could hypothetically run 1-1 of lele/lumineon but i don't think its necessary. Palkia VSTAR looks significantly different today than it does before but I've been off the deck for a while so the updated version won't appear here.
Great deck but could run trainers mail!
-Evn
Evn Mail is only for decks that want to dig through themselves as quickly as possible. In theory, if you're trying to find a certain card, it makes much more sense to run more copies of it than simply running Mail, which reduces the odds of getting a specific Trainer you want.
Hey, thanks for the response! I've delved a lot deeper into Expanded since I wrote that comment, so that was the answer I was able to find. I do believe that Lumineon has a place in decks that lean more into the turbo aspect, as they can be used in tandem with Forest Seal Stone if Crobat isn't immediately available. The deck that I use it the most in is the annoying Raichu Electrode combo deck when I'm feeling petty. I haven't seen any Wobbuffet decks in a long while, so I may just be conditioned to not view it as that big of a threat anymore.
CountyGibbon798 Wobb Stall itself has been outphased completely even though I think its still decent enough. But it still has niche roles in decks like Regidrago and Shadow Rider nonetheless
Last role I saw Wobbuffet having was in a Palafin ex list to turn off its ability and cheat it into play. This is the main list I could find using it: https://pokemoncard.io/deck/garbodor-palafin-95216
Speaking of which, during your absence there was a surge of competitive-intended Expanded decks made by the users Siegislash and Battle Compressor . I'd recommend checking them out!
CountyGibbon798 I forgot about Palain but yes Wobb is used in there and its seen some decent results overseas in Japan. I checked their decks out, they're fine for casual but not great for competitive
I'm guessing that until something comes out that can absolutely destroy the top threats with no effort, the current Expanded meta will be set in stone for the next few years. Lillie's Clefairy ex should help greatly in Shdow Rider for the Regidrago matchup at least. Definitely looking forward to see if you remaster any of your existing lists!
CountyGibbon798 Lillie's clefairy will help a LOT and honestly i think it'll help shadow rider become relevant again, maybe even top 5 possibly. I'm thinking about remastering palkia since it was one of my favorite decks. It has a more tools now like black kyurem ex so i might go back to testing with it. sadly it won't reach S tier but i think it can at the very least deal with its worst matchups.
Shadow Rider has definitely taken a hit for being a 3-prize Pokemon in general, something not a lot of decks can afford to risk losing. Might be interesting to use Hero's Cape to increase its survivability even more, but the sheer usefulness of Computer Search and Dowsing Machine make it difficult to justify. Could maybe also run Mewtwo ex as a one-of so you have a basic and 2-prize Pokemon with the attack, as well as some niche Lightning-type coverage for the Palkia matchup.
If I were to hope to have any deck become viable in Expanded though (other than SIlvally-GX), I'd aim for Cinderace ex. If it weren't for the fact that it's a stage 2, it hits *just* enough sweet spots to be good in my eyes, even if it's on the more gimmicky side of things.
CountyGibbon798 Shadow Rider can't attach to Mewtwo ex. Neither Cinderace ex or Silvally GX are decks that can be ever viable.
Well, that's too bad for Mewtwo. And it's about what I expected for the other two! I'll probably still run SIlvally GX when playing casually because I like the Pokemon in general, but in tournament play I'll be sticking to the meta stuff.
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